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Monday, April 7, 2014

Moving to Ecuador and bureaucracy. Part four. April 2014.

Let's assume that some married couple from US came to Ecuador and bought property. In case of their death their children have to prove that they are their children to receive rights to the property. Good luck with that, especially if it's married daughter who took her husband name!
The real fun begins when it's not first, but second or third marriage for the couple and each spouse has children.
If you changed your last name due to marriage(s) and your children changed their names - have my sympathy.  It's not going to be easy.   

Do your family a favor: have an Ecuadorian lawyer to write "Declaracion Juridico" (you have to notarize it as well - in Ecuador) stating your children, their birth names and current names and copies of supporting documents, like their passport's main page, copy of their birth certificate and so on.

My friend in US thinking about moving to Ecuador. She checked her documents and it turned out that her marriage certificate has her and her spouse's names spelled incorrectly, besides the certificate itself is issued in Jamaica. They had a beach wedding.
So there are few problems here, first impasse with names, second - how to apostil the marriage certificate? 
Also she wants to buy a property in Ecuador and she has a son from first marriage. Her spouse doesn't have any children.  My friend was born X, became Y after first marriage and after second marriage she is Z. Her son has last name Y.

It will take her a while to get ready to move to Ecuador.     

Part one
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/expat-advice-about-moving-to-ecuador.html

Part two
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/moving-to-ecuador-and-bureaucracy-part.html

Part three
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/moving-to-ecuador-and-bureaucracy-part_6.html


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We have a 2 bedroom, 1 bath totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
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Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental2.blogspot.com

Sunday, April 6, 2014

Moving to Ecuador and bureaucracy. Part three. April 2014.

In Ecuador majority of people have two first names and two last names. Their names are the same from birth to death. The children have their parent's names in their cedulas.
Ecuadorian bureaucrats, don't understand the foreign concept of how husband and wife have the same last name, that the name can be changed in a marriage. 
Let's say there are Ecuadorian male and female, they met, fall in love, get married and produced children.
His name: Juan Adam Gonzales Juires
Her name: Maria Eva Suárez Pizales
They didn't change their names when they got married, but they have to receive new cedulas with new marital status and name of the spouse.
If they ever will get divorced they have to receive new cedulas again with new marital status.
In Ecuador husband and wife keep their names they had before marriage, so they are still Juan Adam Gonzales Juires and Maria Eva Suárez Pizales.
Their children, however, have last names Gonzales Suárez.
Here is the difference(one of them anyway) in between the legal system you knew before Ecuador and legal system in Ecuador.

In Ecuador majority of people don't need to have a living will, because there is a law that spells pretty clear in between whom (family members and from bureaucratic point of view, the spouse is NOT considered the family member) the possessions will be divided in case of death. The children have preference and the children have their parent's names in their cedulas.

to be continued

Part one http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/expat-advice-about-moving-to-ecuador.html

Part two
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/moving-to-ecuador-and-bureaucracy-part.html


Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
We have a 2 bedroom, 1 bath totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental.blogspot.com


Rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
3 bedroom, 1 bath remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental2.blogspot.com

Saturday, April 5, 2014

Moving to Ecuador and bureaucracy. Part two. April 2014.

Ecuadorian cedula states your name, place of birth, birthday, nationality, spouse's name, provided you are married, marital status, father's and mother's names and some other info.
That is a lot of info and data entry clerks tend to make mistakes, most common mistake is misspelling names. However it's up to customer (cedula holder) to fix these mistakes. It takes time and money to resolve issues with all of these names.
Also, Ecuadorian cedula is valid for 12 years, after that it's expired and has to be reissued. When people come over to Registro Civil to have their new cedula - whatever new laws, rules and regulations bureaucracy decided to impose, this is a time for them to reinforce it.

My Russian acquaintance got divorced from her Ecuadorian husband few years ago. They got married back in Russia and she took her husband's name. Well, now she was told she cannot have his name, it is against the new regulations and she has to have her maiden name back.
It means that she has to change her Russian passport(Russian Embassy), get the visa stamp in her new Russian passport (Extranjeria) and receive her new cedula(Registro Civil). She started the process in January, I supposed it was her new year resolution, it's still work in progress, she is still working on a new Russian passport issue.  

to be continued

Part one http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/expat-advice-about-moving-to-ecuador.html

Part three
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2014/04/moving-to-ecuador-and-bureaucracy-part_6.html



Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
We have a 2 bedroom, 1 bath totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental.blogspot.com


Rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
3 bedroom, 1 bath remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental2.blogspot.com